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	<title>Comments on: Reward your customers and save your reputation, the O2 way</title>
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		<title>By: Robert Sharl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Sharl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 19:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as I know, the SIMplicity tariff is calls and SMS only. O2 charge extra for data, and the iPhone has all-you-can-eat data, plus visual voicemail. As iPhone users are big data consumers, I suspect that the &#163;29 a month contract is pretty good value, in terms of what O2 normally charge, and that there isn&#039;t much slack in there. 
 
What I do think though is that iPhone customers are likely to turn out to be pretty loyal, given a good deal, and churning (and the discounts they have to offer to attract new customers) must be an expensive business, in comparison to giving potentially loyal customers a bit of a break. 
 
Perhaps they could offer us the option of extending our contract by 12-24 months, rather than paying our way out early and starting again? 
 
Personally, I&#039;d rather just be able to pay what the hardware is worth and keep my current contract. I&#039;m planning to buy the PAYG iPhone 3GS and use my current monthly SIM. 
 
I&#039;ll subsidise with the sale of my existing 3G, and in 12 months time when Apple update again, I can just upgrade (and sell the 3GS for a further subsidy). </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as I know, the SIMplicity tariff is calls and SMS only. O2 charge extra for data, and the iPhone has all-you-can-eat data, plus visual voicemail. As iPhone users are big data consumers, I suspect that the &pound;29 a month contract is pretty good value, in terms of what O2 normally charge, and that there isn&#039;t much slack in there. </p>
<p>What I do think though is that iPhone customers are likely to turn out to be pretty loyal, given a good deal, and churning (and the discounts they have to offer to attract new customers) must be an expensive business, in comparison to giving potentially loyal customers a bit of a break. </p>
<p>Perhaps they could offer us the option of extending our contract by 12-24 months, rather than paying our way out early and starting again? </p>
<p>Personally, I&#039;d rather just be able to pay what the hardware is worth and keep my current contract. I&#039;m planning to buy the PAYG iPhone 3GS and use my current monthly SIM. </p>
<p>I&#039;ll subsidise with the sale of my existing 3G, and in 12 months time when Apple update again, I can just upgrade (and sell the 3GS for a further subsidy).</p>
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		<title>By: Marcos Scriven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcos Scriven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 07:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there 
 
I support your cause, even though I&#039;m out of contract (having bought a PAYG 3G iphone a while ago, and used it on T-Mobile) 
 
However, I don&#039;t see people backing this up with numbers which are there. 
 
I think the SIMplicity (SIM only) &#163;20 tariff is directly comparable in quota terms to the &#163;35 iPhone tariff. That essentially means you&#039;re paying &#163;15 extra a month for the phone. 
 
Therefore, to get out of the contract, I expect it would be reasonable for O2 to ask for an extra &#163;15 x remaining months, so they don&#039;t lose out on subsidy. For many early adopters this would be 6x&#163;15 = &#163;90 
 
However, they are asking for 6x&#163;35 = &#163;210!! A premium of &#163;120 over and above the actual subsidy. 
 
So when O2 say &quot;look, we can&#039;t just cancel the contract early, we can&#039;t afford to lose subsidy&quot;, they are BLATANTLY lying. 
 
Unfortunately, I&#039;ve not seen anyone say this to O2 on Twitter. 
 
Also, a lot of people are support O2 (why, are they lawyers?) because they believe this is only about subsidy. It&#039;s NOT! 
 
Spread the truth! 
 
Marcos </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there </p>
<p>I support your cause, even though I&#039;m out of contract (having bought a PAYG 3G iphone a while ago, and used it on T-Mobile) </p>
<p>However, I don&#039;t see people backing this up with numbers which are there. </p>
<p>I think the SIMplicity (SIM only) &pound;20 tariff is directly comparable in quota terms to the &pound;35 iPhone tariff. That essentially means you&#039;re paying &pound;15 extra a month for the phone. </p>
<p>Therefore, to get out of the contract, I expect it would be reasonable for O2 to ask for an extra &pound;15 x remaining months, so they don&#039;t lose out on subsidy. For many early adopters this would be 6x&pound;15 = &pound;90 </p>
<p>However, they are asking for 6x&pound;35 = &pound;210!! A premium of &pound;120 over and above the actual subsidy. </p>
<p>So when O2 say &quot;look, we can&#039;t just cancel the contract early, we can&#039;t afford to lose subsidy&quot;, they are BLATANTLY lying. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, I&#039;ve not seen anyone say this to O2 on Twitter. </p>
<p>Also, a lot of people are support O2 (why, are they lawyers?) because they believe this is only about subsidy. It&#039;s NOT! </p>
<p>Spread the truth! </p>
<p>Marcos</p>
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